Gays and Christianity
I came across this website while surfing the net: www.progressivechurches.org it is a list of area churches that accepts gay members. I'm curious to see what everyone thinks about this whole issue of gays and Christianity?
Every time I read the Bible it says that God does not approve of this kind of relationships between the same sex. I wonder how these churches justify gay membership and in some cases even gay ministers?
I have some good friends who are gay and they are really nice people, but I cannot say that they are good Christians. Please leave your comments.
posted by cmmdtp @ 8:41 PM
11 Comments:
Oh yes, the bible says that and much more. Read here:
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0800/answers.html
In fact, I would highly suggest you take all of the quizzes on this page:
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/quizlist.html
Every SINGLE answer is backed by a direct quote from scripture.
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I am a Christian.
There is a lot of stuff in the Old Testament that is wrong. We don't treat women and children that way anymore and we shouldn't.
The New testament, the teachings of Jesus Christ, is what people ought to pay more attention to. His message of peace, love, and acceptance was a far cry from treating people who are different as outcasts or keeping them from attending church.
In my opinion, there is nothing worse than a Christian who judge's and who cannot accept ALL people and show forgiveness.
This is just my humble opinion, I know I won't change your mind:)
You're right about this. Even the New Testament has criticisms of homosexuality, and the book of Acts contains a passage (I can't remember where) that incorporates some of the Old Testament law into the Christian faith: specifically the prohibitions against eating strangled animals (rather than throat-cut-and-bled-out) AND the rules governing sexuality.
If we start banning homosexuals from attending church, we will also have to ban liars and murderers. And before we say of course noone who goes to church are liars and murderers, then we have to reread the Sermon on the Mount. And when we reread that we then see that Christ's "new law" seems to be even more stringent than the Old Testament. Then, perhaps we might get it. If Christ's new law is filled with hope and grace, then so is the Old Testament Law. The issue is not, and never has been, about homosexuality and whether God is against it. God has always been against sin. But then he has always been for sinners. And His grace and mercy has always been overwhelmingly awesome. We must get that right. We just must or we will no longer be the church that is supposed to bring healing to a people who are desperately sick and in dire need.
I agree with t and the bloke. If we are going to ban gays from Church, then we must ban liars, adulterers, and such, which will mean our churches will have few people in them if any.
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My view on this topic is if you believe thay being gay is a sin than you cant have that person leading you as a preacher.
My reasoning that in management one of the worst things you can do is be hypocritical. You have to walk the talk otherwise you lose respect from your staff. I am also of the belief that you shouldn't infringe your beliefs and ideals on other people. So it all comes down to is if the followers of a religion is willing to accept a certain type of leader and that choice should not be forced upon them by world norms.
We all sin and come short of the glory of God.
While everyone should be welcomed to a church, not everyone that goes to a church is a Christian.
A Christian is someone that has a relationship with God based on salvation through Jesus Christ.
The effect of that relationship is repentance from sin. A Christian does not continue in sin, but seeks to overcome sin.
To admit you are willfully continuing in any sin, gossip for instance, and are also a Christian is an error.
For those outside of Christ it is logical to be lead by your desires.
For those in Christ the joy of the relationship with God is greater than any sacrifice of diminishing pleasures.
And that joy is just the first of many considerations.
I guess it all depends on your definition of Christian, and the person's relationship with God.
Personally, I think I'll stick to "Love thy neighbor as thyself", and leave the judging of whether someone's a good Christian or not up to God.
Gays should be welcome in any church. I'm a Christian and I sin every day. I don't agree with homosexuality because it is an abomination to the Lord and a sin. But I also don't agree with lying, stealing, gossiping, pornography, etc. I wrap my arms around gay people and love them as myself even though I don't agree with their sin. A sin is a sin in God's eyes; one is just as bad as the other. It's nobody's place to judge; only God!
"So He (Jesus) said to them, 'Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her.'" Mark 10:11; see also Matthew 19:9.
"Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife is not to depart from her husband. But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife." 1 Cor 7:10-11.
Now let me get this straight...your blog seems to almost brag about the fact that you are on your third marriage. How do you justify that against Christ's and St. Paul's words? So are you worthy to "throw the first stone" at our gay sisters and brothers???
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